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Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter What

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:41 pm
by drophammer
I have run several proto leagues as I got used to how things worked, and every time, my Training Camps experienced massive regression in the second year, even though the settings seemed to work fine in the first year.

I finally started a league I want to run with, but one thing I planned to do was to save it right before the 2nd year Training Camp, and experiment until I got good results, because I could not seem to get anything to work before. Well, I have tried everything. Nothing seems to work.

I did begin with a rather aggressive schedule, but right away, I decided to back that off. So now, only my incoming Freshmen are doing the hard schedule. Everyone else is UNDER 20 total points, with nothing physical over 5 points. Nothing seems to work. I get massive regression every time. I am wondering if there is something wrong in the way the schedules are assigned, and the game is still processing everyone on the aggressive schedule.

I will continue experimenting, but some help would be appreciated.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:27 pm
by drophammer
I have tried a handful of random combinations, all of them give me similar results. About 20% of my roster gets a modest bump, maybe 30% stays at 0. 50% gets some kind of regression, the worst of which is in the -30 to -35 range.

I will try a systematic approach later, going with a 2/2/2/2, then a 3/3/3/3, then a 4/4/4/4, and post the results.

Nothing seems to matter.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:56 pm
by Brooks_Piggott
Are they actually regressing, or are you looking just at the training camp report results to determine? Could be the report is off in certain scenarios?

Also, coaches (or lack thereof) also has effects on things. Typically I see the largest losses in teams that don't have their coaching staff set.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:24 pm
by drophammer
Coaching staff is set and coaches are good. I would think that I should still see variation as I changed the schedule.

I am looking at the results, not at the individual players' numbers.

My scenario is custom - 10 conferences of 12 teams each.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:27 pm
by drophammer
Okay, so this guy came out as a -31 in the report. However, when I looked up his player info, here is the before (on top) and after (on bottom).

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This needs to be much more intuitive. Either the training camp report needs to show the total number of points in all stats that has increased or decreased, or it needs to show the change in the OVR. I can't see a -31 and understand that the player gained 1 in the OVR.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:38 am
by Brooks_Piggott
What was he going into the season? The -31 refers to overall losses of all individual ratings (not OVR) for the entire season, in-season training and training camps. It could also be certain ratings that don't affect OVR for that particular position.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:48 pm
by drophammer
This was Training Camp between season 1 and 2. I do not know what he was at the start of season 1. Training was set to something moderate for the year. Something like 20 or 21 points.

I will watch him again as the season rolls over to season 3.

I would suggest breaking up the report to show yearly changes separate from Training Camp. Or, put a note in the report to indicate that the changes include changes from the entire year.

Re: Training Camp Problems - Massive Regression No Matter Wh

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:14 am
by drophammer
Training Camp before season 3 was back to normal looking. Nothing negative, positives were more than 2/3 of the team. The same player from above ended up with a +2 this time.